Oct 08, 2007, 09:29 PM // 21:29
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Wark!!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Florida
Profession: W/
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Question about W/Mos and monk skills
I was wondering, if you are going W/mo, which monk skills are worth a precious skill slot as you are a non-caster class. While I play mostly PvE, I think this is a valid question for pvp as well.
Some like rebirth (for pve), remove hex, and mending... touch seem like good choices. Some like Strength of Honor can be used conditionally, ie when the other guy's AL vs elements is 90+ and you are going to put 10 points into either conjure element or SoH, SoH is the better choice. Others like Light of Dwayna might be arguable as an okay skill in general, but probably shouldn't be on a warrior's bar.
Note I'm generally assuming that the person won't be raising their monk skills above 8-10 and will have no more than 1 or 2 monk skills.
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Oct 08, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a bridge
Guild: Team Quitter [QQ]
Profession: Mo/
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Mending Touch is the only real option. I guess you could use Purge Sig on a purely adrenal build.
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Oct 08, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Let's see...
Holy Veil, Mending Touch, hard Res, Purge Signet, Succor...
Ummm... Yeah.
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Oct 08, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: California Canada/BC
Guild: STG Administrator
Profession: Mo/
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That all depends on what chapters you own for core mend ailment then there is purge conditions.I wouldn't use purge signet as it will drain all your energy if you happen to need it other skills could include holy veil or remove hex as well as a hard res rebirth.That is all you need to be thinking about unless it is for farming.That is for the farming forum.
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Oct 08, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Uk,Wales
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[skill]Mending[/skill]
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Oct 09, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Arizona
Guild: Clanless Fraggers
Profession: R/Mo
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no mending!
mending touch and rebirth are only ones I'd bother with
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Oct 09, 2007, 01:34 AM // 01:34
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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[skill]Mending[/skill][skill]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill]Healing Hands[/skill][skill]Orison of Healing[/skill][skill]Heal Area[/skill] are the ones worth taking. Anyone who says otherwise is a retard.
/endsarcasm
Anyway, yea [skill]Mending Touch[/skill][skill]Holy Veil[/skill] are really the staple ones most commonly seen.
Yes [skill]Succor[/skill] has been used but it's not really that effective because, as much adrenaline as you may use, you still need energy for Frenzy and Bull's Strike and on one pip and -1 energy every time your Monk casts a spell, you will never get enough to use anything.
One thing I will never get is why people use /Mo on a Warrior for har drez....
If you're using a hard rez then go /Rt for [skill]Flesh of my Flesh[/skill] since it's the best mid-combat rez for a Warrior. [skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill] requires half range and since you are on the frontlines you don't want to have to run back to rez someone.
As for [skill]Rebirth[/skill].. that skill is mainly for when you have a near-party wipe and someone runs off so they don't die and can rez you later. But you are a Warrior, you shouldn't be running off, you should be holding aggro since you can survive the longest so the rest of your party can run off. And Rebirth sucks for a combat rez.
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Oct 09, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
[skill]Mending[/skill]
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Your lack of [skill]Arcane Echo[/skill][skill]Echo[/skill] phails
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Oct 13, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Profession: Mo/Me
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you guys are so clever and novel coming up with these echo mending jokes. like.. it has no recharge, lolol. GOOD ONE GUYS!
I'm so glad you guys can think up of new and fresh jokes like this one.
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Oct 13, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston
Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]
Profession: A/W
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For PvP, only option I consider bringing is Mending Touch. For PvE, Vigorous Spirit with Hundred Blades. <--No joke there, it works in PvE with all the mobs bunching up on you.
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Oct 14, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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except for the part where you do no damage, because you wasted your elite slot on HB.
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Oct 14, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Guild Hall
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samcobra
you guys are so clever and novel coming up with these echo mending jokes. like.. it has no recharge, lolol. GOOD ONE GUYS!
I'm so glad you guys can think up of new and fresh jokes like this one.
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This made me laugh more than the actual jokes.
But seriously, [skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill]
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Oct 14, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Mystery God Knights
Profession: W/Mo
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ok well, what i use is healing hands, healing breeze and rebirth. i know people may say it is a waste to use an elite, but it has saved me so many times, when the healer is dead and there are heaps of people attacking you it really helps, along with healing breeze it is very good for keeping you alive long enough for you or your party to rez a healer or something. purge conditions can be good if you are getting alot of conditions, but i prefer to use an extra attack skill most of the time.
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Oct 14, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16
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Administrator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peacemaker101
ok well, what i use is healing hands, healing breeze and rebirth. i know people may say it is a waste to use an elite, but it has saved me so many times, when the healer is dead and there are heaps of people attacking you it really helps, along with healing breeze it is very good for keeping you alive long enough for you or your party to rez a healer or something. purge conditions can be good if you are getting alot of conditions, but i prefer to use an extra attack skill most of the time.
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No offense mate, but what you're saying couldn't be more wrong. Healing Hands and the like suck hard because using them means you can't deal damage (I mean real damage, like [skill=text]Dragon Slash[/skill] and [skill=text]Eviscerate[/skill]). If you're not dealing damage, you're not doing anything is most areas.
Warrior's have high armor for a reason - it keeps you alive. If you can hold aggro and kill stuff, you should breeze through most of PvE. This way, there's no 'I have rebirth and saved everyone because I didn't kill them quick enough situations'.
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Oct 14, 2007, 03:34 PM // 15:34
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peacemaker101
ok well, what i use is healing hands, healing breeze and rebirth. i know people may say it is a waste to use an elite, but it has saved me so many times, when the healer is dead and there are heaps of people attacking you it really helps, along with healing breeze it is very good for keeping you alive long enough for you or your party to rez a healer or something. purge conditions can be good if you are getting alot of conditions, but i prefer to use an extra attack skill most of the time.
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If your healer is dying all the time then either
1. Get a new healer who doesn't suck, or
2. Learn to use protection prayers instead of just healing, or
3. Stop overaggroing.
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Oct 14, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston
Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]
Profession: A/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
except for the part where you do no damage, because you wasted your elite slot on HB.
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Who cares about dealing damage when your job in PvE is to be a good tank? Let the other people on the team do the damage while you soak it up.
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Oct 14, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ac1inferno
is to be a good tank?
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Maybe in the DoA. Everywhere else, you're fine if your monks don't suck.
Alternatively, you can run Dragon Slash and Save Yourselves! Turn on godmode AND do real damage.
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Oct 14, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ac1inferno
Who cares about dealing damage when your job in PvE is to be a good tank? Let the other people on the team do the damage while you soak it up.
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There's no point in being the last one standing. Your 100 armor is what allows you to tank, not wasting your skill slots and attribute points on situational tanking crap, self-snaring unnecessary armor buffs, and/or healing prayers. In DoA, a tank is arguably needed. Nowhere else.
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Oct 14, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ac1inferno
Who cares about dealing damage when your job in PvE is to be a good tank? Let the other people on the team do the damage while you soak it up.
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I think you missed an update. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates/20051110
it has been a long time since creatures attacked warriors while eles dropped multiple Mshowers on them.
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Oct 14, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: America.....got a problem with that?
Guild: [Lite]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ac1inferno
Who cares about dealing damage when your job in PvE is to be a good tank? Let the other people on the team do the damage while you soak it up.
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thou art retarded
TANKING IS HIGHLY SPECIALIZED AND IS EFFECTIVE IN MOST PLACES
especially pvp ( rofl tank lfg?)
but really, the AI is smart enough not to bunch on you all the time, so yes, MY WARRIOR IS FOR FITE lol
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